Session 189 – originally titled “Who Do You Think You Are?” – is a potent talk by Da Jeshua San on being all things and on releasing all things, containing vital information on who you are and on what this reality is. It is important for ascension students, specifically, but truly also to humanity at large.

In 50 minutes, presented as a conversation between himself and students in attendance, Da Jeshua San takes the Infinity Angle Exercise and the Reality Creation Exercise (respectively presented by Da Adamus San and Da Jeshua San in SOV sessions 187 & 188) as a starting point and jumps into a discussion on the expression of all things, and, more importantly, on what is holding back the 20th and 21st century being from moving into a state of freedom.

This talk is perhaps one of the most urgent and direct talks in the Meaning of Life collection & the Mastering the Grand Illusions collection.

In a frank way, it will clearly show you where you are with regards to your ascension path and your evolution as a human being… merely by how you will react to the content of this session, and what you intend to do about it afterwards.

Recorded in 2007, you are about to step into a timeless moment and join this Session and the larger imzaia live event it takes place in. Like the sessions and supporting videos surrounding it, this presentation is an important part of the runway leading up to the core presentations of the Meaning of Life events, a 14 part series called the Mastering the Grand Illusions.

TITLE

Who Do You Think You Are?

SERIES

The Study of Vibration | The Cosmic Manifest | The Meaning of Life

AUTHOR

Da Jeshua San

RECORDED

Retie, Belgium | November 24, 2007

LANGUAGES

English spoken | English transcript available

The Study of Vibration | Session 189

by Da Jeshua San

ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPT – The following is a speech-to-text, unedited record of the video session on this page. It has been created by the akeyasan student body, at the request of ascended life, and has been adapted only slightly for grammar purposes where needed.

Da Jeshua San: I’ve also got to say some things about what we are going to be doing the rest of this morning because first I want to talk a little bit with all of you about the exercise that Da Ojadasan’ka Adamus Valen San presented yesterday, and just finding out how everybody responded to that, just to see if it worked or didn’t work. 

As I told you when we all came in, there are some people who are having a little bit of effects – let’s call it ‘effects’ – from the energy that we started up yesterday. I know that Da Ambika San is feeling those effects, and also one of our fellowship is still down in bed right now, but I guess that will all work itself out. 

How are you guys feeling since we did that exercise now? Is it different? Are you still feeling the fears?

Akeyasans: Yes. 

Da Jeshua San: Different?

Akeyasan 1: Yes, different. 

Da Jeshua San: You see how easy it is? How easy it is to change your energy, to change so many things about you? And so often, we just keep running around with the same pain and the same disease and the same worries about life. And doing something as easy as this, can just turn it… [sound of feedback loop] … can just turn it all around! 

Da Ambika San: Actually, starting that energy up made me feel even worse. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, but you have to keep building it up, you see. That’s what people do so many times: You get right up to the point of a barrier, and instead of stepping through the barrier, you say, “Oh, I’m afraid of the barrier, and I am going to step away.” And that’s when you get even worse. 

It can never be bad if you raise your energy because the only place where disease is and where illness is, is in a low energy field. It can never be in a high energy vibration. So, if you want to break through something, all you have to do is step through it. And it might feel bad at first, but if you keep on doing it, if you just work through it, and if you work through the first five minutes or so, you will get rid of that. You will. 

Reflections on the Infinity Exercise

But anyway, let’s focus on the exercise that we did last night. How about that? How many of you tried the exercise? The infinity angle? All of you? Okay, that’s great!

Who wants to share something about that exercise? 

Akeyasan 2: First, I tried to focus on a tree that’s in my garden at home. 

Da Jeshua San: Oh, you did it all the way?

Akeyasan 2: Yes, I did it all the way.

Da Jeshua San: Okay. 

Akeyasan 2: … but I think that’s not a problem because space is not there. So, that’s not a problem. 

Da Jeshua San: That’s right. 

Akeyasan 2: A few things happened. I felt like the connection was there, but then my mind came in: ‘It can’t be this quick. I didn’t do it like these things, so it can’t be like this.’ And there was another image. There were no feelings like that, but I’m not used to that. That is making me doubt, doubt again. So, I started doubting. You told us not to try for only for 15 minutes, so I did not. 

Da Jeshua San: You went on? 

Akeyasan 2: I went on. 

Da Jeshua San: Great!

Akeyasan 2: So, I went on and I started to focus on another thing, a crystal in my home. And again… And then I thought, “Well, I tried for one hour right now, so, this must be enough. I want to sleep now.” Because I felt a bit sleepy, too; and then I was thinking, “Okay, this is my mind again, triggering me.” But I know this of myself that the doubt is so big in me. It’s so deeply rooted in myself. That is what, again and again, is holding me back. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes. Yes. 

Akeyasan 2: So, I went to sleep, and I put my alarm clock half an hour earlier. So, I decided to try again. 

Da Jeshua San: This morning?

Akeyasan 2: Yes. But it didn’t work out. So, I thought, “Okay. This is it. Now I have to leave home because I can’t do this. I’m the only one. All the others, they succeed, and I can’t do this.”

Da Jeshua San: Ah, everybody thinks that all the time. “I’m the last one to do it!” Yeah!

Akeyasan 2: I can’t do this. And I tell this like a bit of a joke, but it doesn’t feel like that because I feel the pain deep inside. 

Da Jeshua San: Of course. Of course, you do, but that’s your mind, still. 

There is so many people here, and throughout all the seminars that we present, all people always think that they’re not going to make it, that they’re going to be the last one to cross the bridge, that everybody around them is doing it, and they’re not doing it, you see? 

Akeyasan 2: And you told that story about Atlantis. I’ve been to Egypt in spring. And it was in front of the pyramids in Cheops, and I felt so afraid. I didn’t dare to go in, and then the one who was organizing the trip, she told [us], “Yes, it went wrong in Atlantis. This started with you that you can’t do this.”

Da Jeshua San: Yes.

The Initial Movement

Akeyasan 2: And then you told us yesterday that in Atlantis we were split up, the ones who… without the mind.

Da Jeshua San: Yes.

Akeyasan 2: And then I thought, “It can’t be like this that some of the people or a group of people can’t join.” And then I thought, “Okay, this is it again!”

Da Jeshua San: Okay, what the Imzaia Consciousness and the Shaumbra Consciousness and the Lightworker Consciousness is all about, is creating that initial momentum. 

You should see it like… If you see unity consciousness like a fog, right, like a big fog, and there is a door here. And all that fog needs to go through that door, but some of it needs to start the initial movement, otherwise the rest won’t follow. And that is long crossed since. That’s long past that point. So, there is millions of people doing this. But within those millions of people again, there need to be those who take the first steps, being in the awareness at the same time that you can’t take the steps alone and that you are just being the pioneers for all those other people who are still coming through as well.

And the rest of the thing, of the exercise that you tried to do, it was actually very brave of you to immediately go to your house to start doing that exercise, and you immediately made the connection, as you said, with the tree and with the crystal, right? But what I think is interesting is that if you go to that house, immediately the mind comes in. 

Have you tried doing it with something in your room? 

Akeyasan 2: Yes. 

Da Jeshua San: And how did that feel? Did it feel different? Or…

Preferences and Judgements

Akeyasan 2: No, I tried it with a locker, and it was more difficult. 

Da Jeshua San: More difficult, because you could see that object visually?

Akeyasan 2: Yes, maybe. And also because of the object, because with the crystal I have a heart connection and with the tree also, and with the locker… [not].

Da Jeshua San: Well, actually, that is a judgment. That is a judgment based on form, based on shape. Because there is a shape you like, you prefer over another shape, you see? That is something that we are going to be working on in the next couple of days to make sure that you get through that point. Because there is no difference between… You know, I brought one of my favorite crystals here, you see? But at the same time, I have no different feeling about this crystal or that stand over there or this chair, for instance, or the shawl I’m wearing or something. To me, it’s the same thing; it’s the same energy. It’s got the same awareness, and the same Akene energy is in there. 

And that is the perspective, the perception, the point of perception that you need to change, you see? You need to change that because, otherwise, you are always going to be defining things around you, and you are never going to be able, before you do that, right, up until you do that, you are never going to be able to take that first step into it. 

But the fact that you felt the connection happen almost immediately is very good. Next time, just try to make sure that your mind doesn’t intervene then. Because, obviously, if the mind allows that process to happen… oops! You know, if you become aware of the fact that you are not your body, that you are everything around you, that’s a problem for the mind. Because the mind, and the ego that it corresponds with, wants to make you believe that you are this husk, this flesh, so that the flesh needs to be taken care of, and you need to do this and that and that and everything that society wants you to do, you see? 

So, that is why the mind intervenes so quickly, but the fact also that you did it so rapidly, is very positive. 

Today, we are going to do it right here in the hall, so we are going to intervene immediately if the mind comes in. But like Da Ojadasan’ka Adamus Valen San said last night, we wanted to have you experience it first hand before we started doing it in group and before you start influencing each other because that is going to happen anyway. If you do exercises with that many people, you are going to start influencing each other. 

Akeyasan 3: Someone suggested to do the exercise blindfolded.

Da Jeshua San: Well, no, it is actually… You need the point of perception at first. Afterwards, you don’t need all of that anymore, you don’t need the senses. But at the beginning stage, it’s very handy to use your eyes because you’re looking at the object looking back at you. And actually, you have no sense of seeing without the eyes yet. 

Actually, every part of your body can see. All the cells can see. It’s just that you have learned to only take in that input that is coming from the eyes, right there. 

But we could do it later on. We can try that later on. 

Da Cocky San?

Akeyasan 4: We have a small wood here by the lake, and if I walk over there, I can make a connection with the trees, with the plants, with the birds, with the leaves on the ground, with the… “paddenstoelen”…

Da Jeshua San: Mushrooms.

Akeyasan 4: …but I don’t have the feeling that I get in the tree and the tree is coming in me, but it’s all one. 

Learning to Shift Perspective

Da Jeshua San: That is true, that is true. That is what we are learning. This is the first part of the exercise where you learn to shift your perspective, the infinity angle. 

Now, what we are doing now, actually, is (and I am just going to draw it here), what you are learning now, at first, is that there is an object here [dot], right? And then there is you, here [another dot], and what you are learning is that there is divinity in between. And what you can do, is create that movement [infinity symbol], right? 

That’s what you think you’re doing. And then, what it’s actually happening is that this point is moving into this point, and vice versa. But what you are going to be learning – this is just the first infinity angle – at a certain point, you are going to be here [another dot], and you are going to connect to this [dot], but you are also going to connect to this, and you are going to connect to this [dot]. And what we are then going to get [vertical infinity symbol] is a whole different story. And then you are going to have a point here and here – I am going to start doing that – a point here. 

Akeyasan: A flower!

Da Jeshua San: That could be a flower, but that is just one level, of course. You could also do it with this point and that point. And what you will get in the end is an entire field basically, the entire field that is you that is going to connect to you. 

That is what you probably felt with the tree.

Akeyasan 4: Yes, it was and exercise, a year before I came here, with Ramtha. One of the exercises is: lay down, feel the water around you, and make yourself the water. And I could do that very easily. All at once, there were dolphins swimming around me, and you are moving with the waves of the water. And that’s also that you are one and not sending out and getting back.

Da Jeshua San: Yes, but there is still a limitation there. The limitation is that you become bigger, basically. You become bigger with all things around you. But there is a difference. It is about a different set of frequencies. It is about getting beyond a certain vibration. 

Actually, everybody who wants to do it, can, indeed, meditate and sit down and become one with everything that is around you. But at that point, I’m talking about something that is quite different. I’m talking about the fact that you are going to become one with all things in such a way that the entire world is your body. And it’s not about feeling at one with all around you. It is actually being one with all things around you, and to move an object as easy as you move your hand, you see? 

You wanted so say something? I’ll be right back. 

Akeyasan 5: I just wanted to acknowledge what you just said. The experience that I had yesterday… I chose something at my home, so it was remote. 

Da Jeshua San: Also like…, yes?

Akeyasan 5: Yes. It was a statue of wood, and what I did, I wanted to do this exercise, but I felt it was very quick. So, it didn’t take much time. It was very there very quickly, and at a certain point in time, I became the wood. I was like stiffening up and became the wood. So, that is what I felt, so…

Da Jeshua San: Yes. 

Akeyasan 5: I stayed in that state because it felt good. And after that, I just released. And it was, in fact, very simple actually. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, it is a very simple exchange. And, obviously, as I said, it is just a first phase. We will take this way beyond that. And, obviously, it is not about learning how to move an object because that is just a trick, obviously, and that is not what we are aiming for. We are aiming for a full energetic blending of complete consciousness, where you have the same ability that you have with your body today all around you. 

And you could also do that exercise where you become one with the water, as Ramtha has shown you. And that’s a good exercise, but actually, it’s going to go way beyond that. It is actually not becoming the waves but creating the waves. 

Akeyasan 4: Getting one with the water. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, but could you, for instance, choose to create a wave at that point? Could you have a…

Akeyasan 4: More or less. The movement, you get one with the movement. With the trees, no. I don’t feel the tree. The tree is not becoming me, but it’s the energy. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, yes, but you are saying, ‘becoming one with the movement’, I am talking about creating the movement, you see? Because you could lie down and you could become one with the thing that is around you – like the water – but, actually, what you are forgetting is that that is still coming outside of you. Because you are feeling the movement then like you are lying on the water, like you are one with it, but I am talking about the source of emission again, the creative potential, you see?

The Expression of All Things

So, it is actually going to go way beyond that. We are constantly creating our reality, and if we believe that we can become one with something and then feel its movement, then we are still thinking from the outside in. I’m thinking from the inside out. 

Akeyasan 6: It’s becoming the heart of all things.  

Da Jeshua San: Yes, and the expression of all things as well like I think Da Pah Ekara San said yesterday. 

So, what you do, the exercise with the water or with the walk that you do, it’s a good first exercise, but then you take it a step further, you see? 

Akeyasan 4: Yes. 

Da Jeshua San: So, that’s what we are going to be working on.

Akeyasan 7: I tried to, yesterday evening, make contact with the moon, but it was so high, it hurt my neck.

Da Jeshua San: The wall?

Akeyasan 7: No, the moon. 

Da Jeshua San: Oh, the moon!

Akeyasan 7: Later on – there was not so much inside of the room – I decided to look at the microwave, but it didn’t work. But this morning, I was awake early, and I made contact with the television. I only have seen movement. It was close, it was away. There was light around the television. And that’s the only thing I have.

Da Jeshua San: Okay, great. 

I’m actually going to stop everybody here for a second because I’m finding that there is a problem with understanding what actually was said yesterday. Everybody keeps saying about making contact with an object. It’s not about contacting a tree. It’s not about contacting a television. It’s not about making contact with. It is being the expression of all things. And that is quite different. 

Being the expression of all things. Now, what could that mean? Let’s focus on that for a while here because, yes, you could do tricks. You could say, “Oh, there is a nice little Buddha here, and I am going to hold it in front of me. And I see that there is wood, and I am going to try to become one with that wood, you could become one with it. Or you could say, I’m going to exchange with it. But as you have listened to the channel from Da Pah Ekara San yesterday, and I understand it was a difficult channel. I do. I do, especially with the things going on. 

Actually, I’m thinking of giving you the chance at one point during the seminar evenings to, I’m going to play that again for those who want to listen to it very clearly again, even if there is just two people who want to do that. I am going play that again – probably tonight or something – because that is a very important channel. And also the one that we did last seminar, Mastering the Grand Illusions, Part 1. So, maybe we should do that two nights in a row.

So, let’s do that because being the expression of all things goes way beyond it. It goes to a point where you realize that you are watching you all the time, everywhere. Not just through human eyes, but through every cell, every atom. It is an expression of all things, and that is what you are. 

Remember the last attribute that we spoke about yesterday? One of the last attributes? Actually, the last attributes that will show up in all illusions is the point of perspective. And that is what I’m talking about: the point of perspective. You are now learning to change your point of perspective, but do not think for a minute that that is the length, the reach that this exercise will have. It is going to go way beyond that. It is about walking around on this planet Earth and choosing a point of perspective, which is an expression of all things. 

I can only speak from my own experience. When I am walking around here like now, right now, I know that my legs are moving, but actually, these legs are no more mine than those candles are mine. You see? If I am standing here, and if I am talking to you now, I don’t see a lot of bodies sitting here, and that is my only point of perspective. I… Because that is what the brain would do, right? The brain and the mind would just focus on one point of perspective and then say, “That is you. Okay, here is me, the observer, and there is the observed or that is the observed or that is the observed.” It’s all linear, by the way. You can only focus, from the perspective of the mind, you can only focus on one thing at the same time. And the focus can shift very quickly. I can, for instance, go through this room and not even focus on anything really, just go through it, but what happens is that the mind will start categorizing. The mind will say, “Oh, Brenda, Wilma, nana nana nana nana nana.” Very quickly – frrrrrt! – you get like a list. It’s like an index of all the things, like looking at a stock.

Akeyasan 8: Is that why I always felt being watched? Even when I was in the country and there was nobody around me. I always felt watched. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, yes. 

Akeyasan 8: And every movement I did, I felt, “Oh, watch out! They’re watching me!” 

Da Jeshua San: You are watching you!

Akeyasan 8: Yes. 

Da Jeshua San: You are watching you. Yes, that is what’s happening. And that is true! 

The Fifth Element of the Brain

So, if you go around the room like this, and your mind is doing it all the time, constantly, do you know how tiring that is? It is constantly indexing everything your senses are processing. Your brain is constantly being fed information from the eyes and the ears and the taste and everything, and it is linear. It is one after the other. 

What I am talking about is a full-on total expression. It’s complete. It’s a totality on its own. 

I can’t be in this room with you and think I am a unit. I can’t. That is because my senses are no longer feeding information solely to the brain because that’s just 4/5th of the brain itself. There is a 5th element of the brain, which is the Akene. It’s an energy connection. It is the energetic part of your brain, much in the same way as the junk DNA is the energetic part of your 2 strands of biological DNA. And those 2 strands of biological DNA are very limited, indeed, because all they can do is create the body that will eventually be flawed and die. All the other aspects are infinite. 

The same goes for the Akene. The Akene is infinite energy, showing up in infinite dimensions of time and space all at once. 

Now, when, I believe it was Da Pah Ekara San, told you yesterday that 3D is also an infinite field, separating itself in infinite tiny little bits, then it’s not just about the molecules. It’s not just about the electrons. It’s also about all of you. 

So, I can’t stand here, talking to you without perceiving myself at the same time through your eyes. That’s what the Akene does because it’s all being fed into the same data base. You see, there is one Akene. One. And it’s here and there and there. It’s everywhere. It’s in this. It’s in my ring. It’s everywhere. 

So, you are constantly getting that feedback as well. Every point of perception is the expression of all things, and that’s the totality. Otherwise, you are always limiting yourself, and you are finite then, instead of infinite. And there is the difference, you see? 

Now, I know this isn’t the easiest material to work with or to grasp at first, but it is where everything will eventually take you to because you can do all the lightwork that you want, you can listen to all the channels that you want, and you can do all the exercises that you want, but if you listen to them for real… 

Let’s look at The Group, for instance, Steve Rother’s The Group, how many times hasn’t he and The Group told us, you are God? Yes, and then you listen to those channels, and you think, “Oh, I’m God! Nice.” You know? At current, Steve is working on a book: ‘So, I’m God, now what?’ But it’s a good next step, but there you are. You are God. You know this now. Now what? What are you going to do with it? Are you going to just sit there and listen to more channels? Or are you actually going to start manifesting that fact into your daily reality? 

This exercise is a first step towards that. Being the expression of all things. Actually, I should say, the expression within all things, but if I say ‘within’, then I am separating the things again. I don’t like to do that. 

I know it’s very difficult to understand because if you are sitting here in a position of mind, then, indeed, you are limited to one perspective because the mind only has 12 frequencies to work with, and it can’t use the outer range frequencies of the 144 which will allow you to blend with all things around you, so that you can become the expression of all things. And the Akene within that is the heart of all things, you see, which is your very core, your very essence. 

But let’s get back to the exercise. 

Akeyasan 9: I tried the exercise with my image in the mirror, to step into myself in the mirror. So, I was watching myself in the mirror, looking myself into the eyes. And all of a sudden, it was a beautiful, beautiful thing that happened. I got a wonderful slide show. I saw myself like in an aura picture, just colors and light. I saw my face changing. I saw all me-s. 

Da Jeshua San: Uhm.. 

Akeyasan 9: Like you see on television sometimes like the blending of the faces and it changes all the time. That’s what I saw. And then all of a sudden, it was the image watching me. That’s the experience I had. 

Da Jeshua San: Well, that is a very fascinating experience because you would think that you saw past lives, but you didn’t. What you actually saw were people that were in the vicinity around you. 

Akeyasan 9: Oh, quite a few then!  

Da Jeshua San: I don’t mean in the vicinity around you. I mean like in let’s say 1 km all around you. People…

Akeyasan 9: They all looked like me. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes. 

Akeyasan: Because you are them. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes, that’s what Nanda is saying: because you are them. 

Akeyasan 9: It was wonderful anyway. It was like a slide show. 

Da Jeshua San: Well, you will feel…, let’s answer this: if I ask you – because you said, “they look like me” – if I ask you, what do you look like? Are you going to tell me, “Oh, I  have got black hair and I’ve got blue eyes and I look like this.” No! What do you look like? Try to answer that question. What do you look like? 

Akeyasan 9: Well, in the mirror, I only saw lights and colors. 

Da Jeshua San: There you go! There you go! So, when you said, they all look like me, what did you mean then? 

Akeyasan 9: The facial expressions looked like… I think are mine. 

Da Jeshua San: Well, what you saw with the light and the colors and everything, that’s often so very fascinating. We try to keep that separation going for as long as we can because we all got these bodies, right, that we are working with. And then we get to a state of energy, and then we still, like the higher self or like whatever type of energy you try to say, “Oh, but my energy looks like this, and your energy looks like that. You are purple. I am green!” You are all that is. 

Akeyasan 9: It changes all the time. 

Letting Go of your Humanity

Da Jeshua San: Yes, yes, but the scale on which it changes is based on the human condition, you see? Unity consciousness. Your energy has nothing to do with your mood. It has nothing to do… because the 70s talked about that, like the mood rings and stuff. You know, ‘your energy has everything to do with your mood’, that’s a lie. Your energy is completely part of the whole and will blend and change and shift depending on the state of unity consciousness. We are more alike than you would want to think, everybody. And this is a frame of mind that you really have to get rid of. 

That’s why Da Pah Ekara San, and later on Da Ojadasan’ka Adamus Valen San, was so very fierce about letting go of your humanity. Now, yesterday, we didn’t continue speaking about that, but actually, if I’m really honest, I’m looking at you today and I’m seeing all of you here, and I’m wondering, much in the same way sometimes as Da Pah Ekara San was wondering yesterday, why you are still sitting here the same person that you were yesterday. 

Let’s go into that before we continue with the rest of the exercise. Why are you still in the same identity? Why are you still sitting here, and why haven’t you changed your total perspective about yourself? Why are you still holding on to who you are and your story? Why are you still doing that? 

Akeyasan 10: Do we, really?

Da Jeshua San: Do we? 

Akeyasan 10: Do we? Do we do this? 

Da Jeshua San: Yes. 

Akeyasan 10: But there is a change of perspective.

Da Jeshua San: Is there a change of perspective? A real one? 

Akeyasan 10: When I came home from the second seminar, my environment was changed. The impact of the environment was changed. 

Da Jeshua San: Okay. Okay, but you’re still in a field of personality. 

Akeyasan 10: Yes. 

Da Jeshua San: That’s what I’m talking about. I’m not talking about things that happened during the second seminar. I’m talking actually about what Da Pah Ekara San told us last night or the afternoon. What was being said then had a such a profound impact… Actually, those last two channels by Da Pah Ekara San had such a profound impact, and I don’t see that impact showing up in everybody’s lives. And that I think is strange. People are still telling themselves the same story and still using the same fears, only they are a little bit more blocked. 

Now, this isn’t so very strange, obviously, because you have been doing that all your lives, and you have been telling yourself story after story after story all your life. Just changing the way the story goes a little bit so that you think you have evolved. You really haven’t. 

I’m not talking about the… the root of the things that are changing. There are things changing, obviously, because you said your perspective of things is changing, but I’m just telling you to go further. I’m just telling you to not see this as a step-by-step program because then we can do 500 seminars in a row. What I’m telling you actually is that it’s a moment, a split moment of decision in which everything changes. You see? 

But the interesting thing is to notice how comfortable the room gets when I speak about these things. Because everybody feels, “But I did! I did do the things. I did work on myself. I have been doing it.” Yes, but you haven’t done it all the way. 

Akeyasan 9: But how? How do we do it all the way then? 

Letting go of all Stories

Da Jeshua San: To let go of your story! 

Akeyasan: Forget about stories. 

Da Jeshua San: Let go of the story. Let go of the story that is attached to the name Yvonne, in your case. I’m sorry to tell you this, to break you this news, but Yvonne is an illusion. The personality was created by the mind in your ego so that you could have a linear existence. If you want to step away from that linear existence, you are going to have to step away from that which is experiencing your limited existence, and that is Yvonne. 

I don’t mean that you are going to have to say, “Okay, I’m not Yvonne. My name is now Zena.” I’m just saying something. Bullshit. That’s not what it’s about, you see? But this is really about going way beyond all of it, about going further, really further than you have ever gone. And I see it… 

Actually, we have been teaching this material now – and I’ve done it in little groups before we started opening up for seminars – we have been teaching the material now for months. Actually, if you look before that, for so many years, and there are very, very few people who actually completely, fully, and utterly let go because they still think they’re going to fall. 

And then I wonder, how many times can you say, “You’re not going to fall?” Because everybody up to this point that has ever done that type of letting go, nobody has ever fallen, anyone, no one. 

Akeyasan 8: Why that fear then? 

Da Jeshua San: Why that fear? That’s the mind. It is the mind trying to keep you within that limited perspective. 

Akeyasan 4: But what’s the fear? 

Da Jeshua San: The fear? 

Akeyasan 4: Yes, if I can change myself…

Da Jeshua San: Yes? 

Akeyasan 4: … why should I have a fear of that? 

Da Jeshua San: You don’t have fear. Your mind has fear. You don’t fear it, I know. Nobody here really fears it if they are in consciousness. It is just that you keep identifying yourself with the perspective of mind because that is the only reason why the fear is showing up. 

So, there is something holding you here, right? 

Akeyasan 4: What? 

Da Jeshua San: The mind. It is the mind and the illusions, but you are letting go of that now. You are going to see the change that is going to happen, not just in your life – because your life is also an illusion, all life is an illusion – but you are going to see it in your being, in your I Am. And that is a whole new ballpark, so to speak, that you are going to step into. 

And that’s what I have been trying to tell people for so very long, but also those in the new fellowship that I have formed, most of them aren’t doing it either. 

We are still continuing with all those stories, and if you are going to keep on saying, “This is my family, and this is the amount of money that I have, and this is who I am,” then you’re screwed. It’s that simple. You’re simply screwed because the universe is no longer going to support that sort of thing. 

That is why so many people are coming out with this type of information. The new neurons showing up in the brain alone, which are based on neutrality, are showing you that the concept of duality will no longer be supported. 

It is there right in the science, and the science is not bringing it out because they are afraid, very afraid because science these days… Do you know that all science is just about 5% of independent scientists still working? All the rest of scientific research is supported by governments, by big companies, international companies, etc., etc., etc. And once types of results are coming out that are going against what companies and governments want, believe me, the science doesn’t get out. 

Do you really think the cure for the common cold hasn’t been found yet? Do you really think that they can’t cure AIDS when they’ve brought it onto the planet themselves? Do you really think that they can’t cure cancer? It is much more interesting to keep on selling all those medicines, and that’s just one field of science. 

You really have to stop believing everything that the world is telling you. And you don’t even have to start believing what I am telling you right now. Just look at yourself. Look into your very heart. 

Money, Love and Sexuality

Akeyasan 2: I like to ask you a question. What is your feeling about a different thing? I have heard so many times… and in my feeling it is there, too, there is a triangle, a triangle of money, love, and sexuality. And then human beings are now doing healing on that kind of subject. So, there have been so many issues of power on those things. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes. Yes. 

Akeyasan 2: I remember that in former lives. Maybe this is what made me stuck also in the past because I can recognize it. This is about stories, too. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes!

Akeyasan 2: When you can let go of those kinds of things, then maybe you are more free. 

Da Jeshua San: Yes. 

Akeyasan 2: But also, there is a part in me… maybe there is a kind of feeling, but is that…? What is your feeling about this?

Da Jeshua San: Well, you know, all the things that we are talking about – you’re talking about money, love, and sexuality – a lot of stories are based on those things. Only you should say, ‘conditional love’ because there is also something like universal love, but so much conditional love is what is feeding the stories and what is telling you to ‘stay together’ and ‘to form this connection’ and ‘to be the twin flame’, and to… you know, whatever. It is just bullshit. 

You know, back in Lemuria, we used to believe in the concept of twin flame as well. But it was quite a different concept. It was about people making a connection, and then allowing that connection to flood all over humanity. That is quite a different thing. That is quite a different thing because then that connection, the moment it starts spreading, you are no longer owning that connection. You are no longer owning it. It isn’t part of you anymore. It is a type of love that is showing up throughout all that is. And then there is nothing more special about those two people being together, or you being together with someone else or someone else. So, about love, that is a totally different ballpark already there. 

Money, obviously, is one of the biggest limitations that we can put upon ourselves because that is where our biggest fear is coming from. ‘I’m not having enough money. I’m not having enough sex. I’m not having enough love’. I think that sums up the needs of everybody on this planet Earth. And those three things need instant gratification if at all possible. That’s what people want. Instant gratification, instant pleasure, right? 

So, is there a healing process going on? Yes, obviously, but in my view it is still going on within the boundaries of the mind because you need to get totally away from that triangle because those three things are really not important at all. Not the conditional nature of them. So, you need to get away from them I believe. 

Getting away from the stories then, is something that is more fundamental and more drastic than anything else. 

You know, if I look at what has been happening to planet Earth in the last hundreds of years and if I look at the states of people’s minds and if I look at the things, the great gifts that have been brought back to planet Earth and all the insights, then I think it is a real shame to see that people are still not making better choices. Seminars such as this one are meant to help you aim for better choices, but better choices are not about different ways of living. They are not about improving your family life. They are not about improving your financial situation. You don’t find abundance in that respect. It is completely about becoming that one source, and if you don’t do that… Well, then it’s going to be very boring five days because you’re just going to sit here. You’re just going to sit here. 

Begga? And then we are going to go into a break. 

Akeyasan 10: So, what’s the point?

Da Jeshua San: My point? 

Akeyasan 10: What is the change you are waiting for?

Da Jeshua San: Everything. I’m sorry. Everything. You still play the human game. You do. You’re still playing the game of reality, of being human. You’re still doing all of those things. 

And that is what keeps holding everybody back. And I’m not just talking about the people here. I’m talking about the fellowship as well. I’m talking about so many people on planet Earth. Yes?

Akeyasan 11: Yes, do you have an example of a group who is living together, all people, who are doing this?

Da Jeshua San: No. No, there is not a group that I could speak about at least. Not one that is… let’s say, it is not a group that is located within this level of 3D right now. There are other levels of 3D, obviously, where the same thing is being lived, yes, and these seminars could go as far as to introduce you to those worlds and to take you there, but then people are going to have to stop playing their games, you know! 

I can bore you to death probably by saying all of these things, but I can’t pinpoint it enough. 

Let’s go into a break now, and we’ll be right back. I don’t know what time it is, but I’m going to check it out here… It’s 11:22. So, let’s come back at quarter to twelve. Just get some air, and then we will quickly go on, okay? 

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